Showing posts with label Eurovision Song Contest 2025. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Eurovision Song Contest 2025. Show all posts

Saturday, 22 March 2025

Eurovision 2025 Early Thoughts - Lithuania

 

Tavo Akys - Katarsis

Lithuania is quietly building a great qualification streak (currently 4 Qs) in the '20s, which is also the longest in their history.

'Tavo Akys' is one of the most interesting entries of the year serving a genre (grunge indie) that we rarely see in Eurovision but it definitely has an audience and could do well throughout the continent.

Qualification is not in question here. The main goal for Lithuania is to reach the Top-10, something that they have achieved only 3 times in their 24 participations. The Lithuanian diaspora is always there to support their country and the few allies could give them the ammo that they need to reach the 150+ points to get there.

In my opinion, Lithuania will be a Top-10 entry in the Public vote and I do believe that a mid-table to Top-10 result with the Juries is also achievable. The song is not aggressive to be marked down and the vocals are in place as well. This is a genre that could perform really well in Eastern and Central Europe. 

Lithuania has been the country whose televote score was supressed the most by the Ukrainian inflated numbers and maybe this is the time to get back some of these points.

8th to 12th is where I currently have Lithuania in my rankings.


What do I see in my crystal ball?

Lithuania finishing 4th-5th in the Semi - Final, which is full of friends and diaspora and then achieve a left hand-side result finishing 10th.

Televoting Potential: 8/10

Jury Potential: 7/10

Staging Potential: 7.5/10

Momentum: 8/10

My Opinion: 9/10

Total: 39.5/50


What the fair winning chance % would be?

0.1% - 0.5%

Best case scenario:

Top-10

Worst case scenario:

17th-19th

Pre-Contest estimated points:

SF: 80-110

F: J: 40-70 - PV: 60-120 - Tot: 100-190

Share your thoughts in the comments area. Could Lithuania be the shocker Top-10 entry of the Final? 

You can hear my thoughts about Lithuania in the 4th episode of the Eurovision Analysis podcast 'Talk About Things'  co-hosted with the Eurovision experts @mat_rickard and  @Panos_Zannettos at

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Friday, 21 March 2025

Eurovision 2025 Early Thoughts - United Kingdom

 

What the hell just happened? - Remember Monday

After another season full of rumours and leaks UK opted for Remember Monday, a country-pop girl group that had never charted in the UK before the release of their Eurovision entry!

'WTHJH' has an ABBAesque musical vibe and loads of rhythm changes that makes it difficult for the audience to follow it. Theatrical for sure and some jurors will reward the girls for their vocal abilities but I do struggle to find a target audience that will vote for this in the Public vote. There is basically no song there, just a vocal exercise...

There were a few comparisons to OG3NE, that represented Netherlands and finished 5th in the Jury vote, but at the same time they only scored 15 Public vote points and 10 of these points came from their neighbours Belgium.

I am expecting a similar score to last year, maybe a tad better with the Juries but I am not very hopeful for the Public vote. Olly last year received 0 points and I would not be surprised to see a repeat...

The BBC, if they are actually interested in achieving good results in Eurovision, should change their approach and try to allure a big name with an ambition to do well and invest their time and effort to promote their entry. 

All the good faith that Sam Ryder's result brought back in '22 is now gone.


What do I see in my crystal ball?

A few decent points from Juries here and there and a single digit score with the Public that might be enough to avoid a Bottom-5 result. 22nd-24th

Televoting Potential: 2/10

Jury Potential: 7.5/10

Staging Potential: 7.5/10

Momentum: 2/10

My Opinion: 6/10

Total: 25/50


What the fair winning chance % would be?

0.01%

Best case scenario:

Top-15

Worst case scenario:

Last Place

Pre-Contest estimated points:

F: J: 25-75 - PV: 0-15 - Tot: 25-90

Share your thoughts in the comments area. Is UK for a 0 points Public vote score for a second year in a row?

You can hear my thoughts about United Kingdom in the 6th episode of the Eurovision Analysis podcast 'Talk About Things'  co-hosted with the Eurovision experts @mat_rickard and  @Panos_Zannettos at

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Thursday, 20 March 2025

Eurovision 2025 Early Thoughts - Ireland

 

Laika Party - Emmy

Every artist has a chance to go to Eurovision if they are in the right place in the right time. 

Emmy got lucky when the big names failed to deliver in Eurosong 2025 and got the ticket to Basel. 

'Laika Party' gives me the impression of a MGP reject that tried its luck in a different country and actually made it. 

There is not much to comment about the actual entry, a dance track made for Eurovision Junior talking about a Soviet dog going to space, performed by a Norwegian artist that will represent Ireland...

Ireland has a very thin chance of qualifying and that has to do with its Semi - Final being full of friends (UK, Australia, Malta) and performing in the first part of the Semi - Final that is full of slow tempo entries. 

In order to have a chance, they will need at least a couple of high scores from their friends that I highly doubt they will get and also to receive these 1s-3s from many countries, which is not happening either.

I firmly believe that Ireland is the biggest downgrade from 2024 and something needs to be done with their national selection process that being hosted in a small studio, fails to evaluate correctly an entry with potential for a bigger stage.

I have Ireland in my certain non-qualifiers list for the moment and I reckon this is where it will stay till the end. 

What do I see in my crystal ball?

Ireland finishing last or penultimate in the Semi - Final honouring their pre-Bambie Thug tradition. If a miracle happens and they qualify to the Final, 'Laika' will be the strongest contender for the wooden spoon.

Televoting Potential: 6.5/10

Jury Potential: 2/10

Staging Potential: 6/10

Momentum: 3/10

My Opinion: 4/10

Total: 21.5/50


What the fair winning chance % would be?

0.01% - 0.02%

Best case scenario:

Qualification to the Final

Worst case scenario:

Last in Semi - Final

Pre-Contest estimated points:

SF: 25-45

F: J: 0-10 - PV: 10-25 - Tot: 10-35

Share your thoughts in the comments area. Does Ireland have enough to avoid Bottom-3 in Semi-Final?

You can hear my thoughts about Ireland in the 3rd episode of the Eurovision Analysis podcast 'Talk About Things'  co-hosted with the Eurovision experts @mat_rickard and  @Panos_Zannettos at

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Wednesday, 19 March 2025

Eurovision 2025 Early Thoughts - Spain


 Esa Diva - Melody

Spain is the living proof that money cannot buy happiness. Benidorm is giving less and less every year that goes by and Chanel proved to be a fluke.

This year some changes were made in the structure but instead of having a better overall package we were left with a number of entries that were all set up for Eurovision fail.

 Spain is sending the same entry they have been sending the last 25 years. 'Esa Diva' is twenty years late in the party to have an impact and things will be tough for them with both constituencies.

Melody is a charismatic performer that could be acknowledged by the jurors, but she is missing a song and the only thing I could really hope for Spain is that they finally learn the lesson and change everything in their selection process and the acts that participate in Benidorm.

What do I see in my crystal ball?

Spain fighting hard to avoid last place and finishing with a single digit overall score. 25th-26th.

Televoting Potential: 3/10

Jury Potential: 3/10

Staging Potential: 6/10

Momentum: 3/10

My Opinion: 4/10

Total: 19/50


What the fair winning chance % would be?

0.001%

Best case scenario:

Top-15

Worst case scenario:

Last Place

Pre-Contest estimated points:

F: J: 0-10 - PV: 0-15 - Tot: 0-25

Share your thoughts in the comments area. Does Spain have enough to avoid a Bottom-3 finish?

You can hear my thoughts about Spain in the 2nd episode of the Eurovision Analysis podcast 'Talk About Things'  co-hosted with the Eurovision experts @mat_rickard and  @Panos_Zannettos at

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Tuesday, 18 March 2025

Eurovision 2025 Early Thoughts - Malta

 

Serving... - Miriana Conte

If you are looking for signs that the Apocalypse is coming, look no more! Malta is a sending a televote magnet for the first time in almost twenty years!

They have decided to adapt and opt for an entry that could have a chance in a 100% Public vote environment.


'Serving' is the definition of a guilty pleasure entry and Miriana is flirting with trash in a very clever way to sell the song perfectly. EBU's decision to not allow 'Kant' (the famous philosopher😏) on Eurovision stage could work in its favour with commentators mentioning the fact.

I am very intrigued to find out if Malta's "jury appeal" will apply in 'Serving' as well. There will be some public vote going to Malta's side but I do fear that Malta will be the televote magnet that will struggle the most to crack to the Top-10 of that constituency, especially with their track record.

Malta's only realistic ambition is to qualify to the Final for the first time since 2021 and I do think that they will succeed, but still do not consider them a 100% lock, again because of their traditional struggle with the public vote. 


What do I see in my crystal ball?

Malta barely qualifying to the Final (7th-10th) and then used as a filler between two stronger entries and go to sleep finishing 17th-23rd. 

Televoting Potential: 6.5/10

Jury Potential: 3/10

Staging Potential: 7/10

Momentum: 4/10

My Opinion: 6/10

Total: 26.5/50


What the fair winning chance % would be?

0.01% - 0.02%

Best case scenario:

Top-10

Worst case scenario:

Non qualification

Pre-Contest estimated points:

SF: 40-75

F: J: 15-30 - PV: 25-50 - Tot: 40-80

Share your thoughts in the comments area. Can Malta blend their traditional Jury backing with a decent Public vote score to secure a spot in the Top-10?

You can hear my thoughts about Malta in the 3rd episode of the Eurovision Analysis podcast 'Talk About Things'  co-hosted with the Eurovision experts @mat_rickard and  @Panos_Zannettos at

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Saturday, 8 March 2025

Eurovision 2025 Guide - The links for all the articles/analyses/podcast episodes of the season plus a blast from the past

 

To help you navigate through the ocean of articles, reviews, and analyses for the Eurovision 2025 season, I have created this guide that will include the links to all my posts that will be updated throughout the season. Click on the country's name or title of the post to open the links.

You will find my Early Thoughts section for each country, split in Semi - Finals 1/2 plus the automatic qualifiers, followed by the articles that contain data/statistical analyses and resolutions.



In the last part you will be able to find the links for the episodes of the Eurovision Analysis podcast 'Talk About Things'  co-hosted with the Eurovision experts   @mat_rickard,  @Panos_Zannettos and myself with a summary of the content for each episode plus a few selected articles with my projections-tips from the previous years. Enjoy!

Analysis / Data

The Elephant in the Room

It's the Juries, stupid!

The French Connection

Semi - Final 1 Power Rankings

Semi - Final 2 Power Rankings

Talk About all Things podcast Prediction project (Jury vote)

Talk About all Things podcast Prediction Project (Public vote)

Semi Final 1 - Preview/Tips

Semi Final 2 - Preview/Tips

Know Your Numbers '25 Edition

Bonsoir Europe


Talk About Things/ESC Season 2 Episodes

2.01: Montenegro - Albania

Apple Podcasts Spotify

2.02: Luxembourg - Greece - Slovenia - Belgium - Spain 

Apple Podcasts Spotify

2.03: Ireland - Finland - Ukraine - Latvia - Malta

Apple Podcasts Spotify

2.04: Poland - Estonia - Norway - Lithuania - Armenia

Apple Podcasts Spotify

2.05: Azerbaijan - Iceland - Australia - Netherlands - Serbia - Denmark - Germany 

Croatia - Italy - Melfest

Apple Podcasts Spotify

2.06: Austria - Czechia - UK - Sweden - San Marino - Portugal - Israel - Switzerland - Cyprus - Georgia - France

Apple Podcasts  Spotify

2.07: The one about the Running Order of the Semi - Finals. The winners, the losers and the hints from producers

Apple Podcasts  Spotify

2.08: The one about the Winner's Market. The contenders, the wannabe contenders and the faux/non-contenders

Apple Podcasts  Spotify

2.09: The one about the LondonEurovisionParty and some comments about the Semi-Finals' Q/Nq and other markets

Apple Podcasts  Spotify

2.10: The Q & A one! You asked and we answered! 

Apple Podcasts  Spotify

2.11: The Talk About Things Prediction Project: A panel of 16 Eurovision analysts and experts predicts the Top-10 in Jury and Public vote

Apple Podcasts  Spotify


Semi - Final 1

 Estonia 27/50

Belgium 28.5/50

Poland 29.5/50

Slovenia 37.5/50

Albania 42/50

Ukraine 28/50

Iceland 20.5/50

San Marino 17.5/50

Portugal 27/50

Sweden 43.5/50

Netherlands 43.5/50

Azerbaijan 34.5/50

Cyprus 37.5/50

Norway 24/50

Croatia 17/50


Semi - Final 2

Montenegro 26.5/50

Greece 29/50

Finland 38/50

Luxembourg 37/50

Malta 26.5/50

Ireland 21.5/50

Denmark 33/50

Lithuania 39.5/50

Austria 37/50

Serbia 37/50

Australia 37/50

Armenia 20.5/50

Latvia 26/50

Czechia 31.5/50

Israel 35/50


Final

Italy 41.5/50

Spain 19/50

UK 25/50

Germany 36.5/50

Switzerland 35.5/50

France 44.5/50

 




Blast from the past

2024

There's No Going Back

Finding Nemo...

Crown Rim Tim Tagi Dim

Semi Final 1 Power Rankings

Semi Final 2 Power Rankings

Breaking the Winner's Code

My Betting Resolution for 2024

Know Your Numbers 2024 edition


2023

The Swedish Way

Diamond in the rough

The clash of the Nordics

Semi Final 1 Power Rankings

Semi Final 2 Power Rankings

Eurovision 2023 Betting Book

You Will Never Walk Alone


2022

Stefania...

Down to the river

The Tipping point?

Semi Final 1 Power Rankings

Semi Final 2 Power Rankings

Eurovision 2022 Betting book

Eurovision 2022 Betting resolution

The year that will live in infamy

The dark horses market


2021

Buonasera signore e signori

The Dark Arts of Running order

The one that...

We Got Game

Semi Final 1 Power Rankings

Semi Final 2 Power Rankings

Winner's market first thoughts

Winner's market the rest of the field


2019

Insert Coin

The First Blood

Semi Final 1 Tips

Semi Final 2 Tips

Semi Final 1 Power Rankings

Semi Final 2 Power Rankings




Friday, 29 November 2024

Eurovision 2025 Early thoughts - Montenegro

 

Dobrodošli - Nina Žižić

And here we are again to talk about Montenegro's entry. Drama is the main ingredient of the Eurovision National Finals season and Montenegro had lots of it!

NeonoeN decided to withdraw from the Contest after a video was made public with them performing live  version of their entry before the September 1st deadline, instead of waiting for EBU's approval, which 99% would have allowed them to participate.

'Dobrodošli' is a typical female Balkan ballad and Nina has a team behind her that knows how to stage an entry. The major red flag here is how do you sell a song in a 100% Public vote Semi-Final that finished 4th in its National Final that had some good entries but nothing outstanding?

Montenegro has by far the poorest track record in the Public vote since 2016. 

In their last five attempts, they have accumulated just 107 points in total, an average of 21.4 points per Contest. Their best result in that span was back in 2017 when Slavko Kalezic finished 11th (PV only). 

Things do get worse when someone realises that 74 out of these 107 points come from the other ex-Yugoslav Republics. Two of them are no longer participating and it is almost impossible to have the other three in the same Semi - Final with them. 

The only Contest since 2016 that Montenegro received some Public vote points outside of the ex-Yugoslavian nations is 2017 when they were awarded points from nine different countries.

The good news is that Slovenia and Serbia managed to qualify last year, in a Semi- Final that had indeed three ex-Yugoslavian nations though. Montenegro will need a similar line-up, probably Albania as well, and a weak Semi - Final to have an actual chance to make it.

If they do make it to the Final though, the Juries could award some points as well to secure a mid-table result for Montenegro.

If there is one entry with a huge MUST over its head this year, that is Montenegro that must qualify at all costs, otherwise this might be their last participation for some time and this is a shame after the National Final that they have organised this year.


What do I see in my crystal ball?

For the moment, Montenegro is in the Non-qualifiers list and I will need a minimum of three countries out of the Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia and Albania group to start considering them a contender for the qualification.


Televoting Potential: 4.5/10

Jury Potential: 7/10

Staging Potential: 7/10

Momentum: 2/10

My Opinion: 6/10

Total: 26.5/50


What the fair winning chance % would be?

0.001% or lower

Best case scenario:

Top-15 in the Final

Worst case scenario:

Bottom-3 in Semi-Final

Pre-Contest estimated points:

SF: 20-45

F: J: 40-80 - PV: 20-40 - Tot: 60-120


Tell me about yourself

Montenegro has the worst qualification record of all participating countries with just two in twelve attempts. It holds the current non qualification streak record with five, with the last presence in the Final dating back to 2015.

Poor results in Semi - Finals as well with most of their entries finishing in Bottom-3. 

Semi - Finals Public Votes Received (2016-2024)

'Amigos para siempre'...

Serbia 30 pts 3/3 - Slovenia 20 pts 3/3 - Croatia 6 pts 1/1

'We should go for a coffee never  sometime'...

Poland/Cyprus/Czechia/Georgia/San Marino 0 pts 0/4

Estonia/France/Greece/Malta 0 pts 0/3

Netherlands/Latvia/Portugal/UK/Germany/Israel 0 pts 0/2




Sunday, 17 November 2024

It's the Juries, stupid!

 

In my previous post I addressed the 'Elephant in the Room' problem that Eurovision faces in the Public vote since '22 when the war broke in Ukraine. The problem became more intense last year with the addition of Israel's war as well.

I have also mentioned the recent trend with the last two Jury winners winning the Contest without winning the Public vote, something that has happened only once from 2009 to 2022 (Sweden '15).

This article will try to shed some light and explain if what happened in the previous two Eurovisions was a statistical anomaly or the new norm. This has been my focus so far this season when analysing the data from the split vote era ('16-'24). There are some interesting findings that I am sure that they will grab your attention. 

The easiest way to answer why we have two consecutive Jury winners that won Eurovision despite losing the Public vote is that we have had the Semi-Final rule change where the result is 100% determined by the public. As a result, the Final is stacked with more 'televote magnets' that have their Public vote scores diluted in the Final, while the strong Jury magnet entries are less and therefore it is easier for them to secure a great Jury score. 

This answer is partially valid, when we are looking at the Public vote side with many entries doing well in the Semi - Final but get lost in the Final, because there are stronger packages there (Austria '23, Moldova '23, Poland '23, Finland '24, Estonia '24). The competition is fierce and is very difficult for more than three or four entries to really stand out with the public, especially now that Ukraine and Israel are both taking big slices of the Public vote cake. 

 The second part of the answer is to assume that at the same time we have a smaller number of 'jury bait' entries that do get all the Jury points and that assumption is also partially correct. There is indeed one entry that is amassing the majority of 12s and 10s every year but no more than that.

In the last two editions there were 2 entries that scored 300+ points in the Jury vote (Sweden '23/ 340pts, Switzerland '24/ 365pts), and 2 entries that scored 200+ points (France '24/ 218pts, Croatia '24/ 210pts). At the same span there are 4 entries that scored 300+ points in the Public vote (Finland '23/ 376pts, Croatia '24/ 337pts, Israel '24/ 323pts, Ukraine '24/ 307pts), and 4 entries that scored 200+ points (Sweden '23/ 243pts, Norway '23/ 216pts, France '24/ 227pts, Switzerland '24/ 226pts).

It is rather impressive that the Public vote failed to crown a winner in four occasions which an entry scored 300+ points and the Jury vote managed to win 2/2 within the same threshold. Excluding Ukraine and Israel and their 'special Public vote circumstances', there are two entries from each side and Juries won both times, despite the fact that Finland in '23 got the highest single score (376pts vs 340pts).

  I had to dig deeper in numbers to draw more conclusions and decided to check the sets of 12 points the winners and runner-ups received in the split vote era plus the number of countries that received at least one set of 12 points. Regarding the number of countries receiving at least one set of 12 points, there is a similar trend that started with both constituencies in '22, and that is a significant reduction in the number of countries that are awarded with 12 points.

Between 2016-2021 the average number of countries receiving a set of 12 points was 14 for the Public vote and 14.6 for the Jury vote. The averages for the 2022-2024 period are 10 and 9.7 respectively! Suddenly, Juries and Public are awarding their top scores in less entries, leading to scores near or above the 350 points region. 

Furthermore, 5/6 entries in the Top 6 in sets of 12 points received within a constituency come from the last three editions as well.

28 - Ukraine '22 (PV)

22 - Switzerland '24 (JV)

18 - Finland '23 (PV), Portugal '17 (JV)

15 - Sweden '23 (JV), Israel '24 (PV)

There are 11 entries in total that have received 10 sets of 12 points or more in a constituency between 2016 and 2024 and 5 of them are the ones mentioned above, all sitting in the Top 6. But even these stats are not enough to draw a final conclusion on why Jury Winners have won Eurovision twice in a row.

My next step was to focus on the amount of sets of 12 points the Top 3 in the scoreboard (total results) has received with each constituency looking at the averages and medians and this when I had my eureka moment! 


Average number of 12 points sets with each constituency and totals the split vote era (2016-2024)

Winner - Jury Vote: 10.8 - Public Vote: 7.8 - Total: 18.6

2nd - Jury Vote: 5.6 - Public Vote: 6.1 - Total: 11.7

3rd - Jury Vote: 4.6 - Public Vote: 4.9 - Total: 9.5

My first reaction when I have seen the averages for the Eurovision winners was that the results of the last two years, have skewed the numbers in favor of the Juries so I have decided to check the median number as well and these are the results.

Median number of 12 points sets with each constituency and totals in the split vote era (2016-2024)

Winner - Jury Vote: 8.5 - Public Vote: 5.5 - Total: 16

2nd - Jury Vote: 6 - Public Vote: 4 - Total: 11.5

3rd - Jury Vote: 4.5 - Public Vote: 4.5 - Total: 9

The numbers between the two different metrics are not that far off and the Juries are still doing better than the Public. And then came the biggest surprise I have ever witnessed while doing Eurovision data analysis! Checking the individual sets of 12 points of all winners I realized that...

-There is a Eurovision Winner that has received 0 sets of 12 points in the Public Vote (Sweden '23).

- There is a Eurovision Winner that has received 1 set of 12 points in the Public Vote (Switzerland '24).

- There is a Eurovision Winner that has received 2 sets of 12 points in the Public Vote (Netherlands '19) but...

- There is no Eurovision Winner that has received less than 4 sets of 12 points in the Jury Vote!!! (Italy '21)

In fact, 5/8 times the Eurovision winner received more 12s from the Juries than the Public...

Ukraine '16 -  JV: 11 - PV: 6

Portugal '17 - JV: 18 - PV: 12

Netherlands '19 - JV: 6 - PV: 2

Sweden '23 - JV: 15 - PV: 0

Switzerland '24 - JV: 22 - PV:1

 The discrepancy between the two constituencies is pretty obvious, something that is not the case in the 3 occasions that the Eurovision winner had more 12s from the Public with the exception of Ukraine in 2022.

Israel '18 - JV: 5 - PV: 8

Italy '21 - JV: 4 - PV: 5

Ukraine '22 - JV: 5 - PV: 28

The fact that Ukraine in '16 finished 2nd with both constituencies, Portugal won them both in '17, and Israel '18, Netherlands '19 and Italy '21 all finished higher in Public vote than in Jury vote have kept the truth in the dark.

Juries have a 5-3 score in their favor among the 2nd places and the 3rd place has a 4-4 tie. There are 3 more entries that managed to receive only 1 set of 12pts from the Public vote and finished in Top 3 (UK '22 - 2nd, Switzerland '21- 3rd, Spain '22 - 3rd) when there is only 1 entry that finished in Top 3 receiving 0 sets of 12s in Jury vote (Moldova '17 - 3rd) and 1 more that received only 1 (Russia '19 - 3rd).

These findings made me understand that there is a misconception, even among the analysts myself included, regarding how powerful the Juries are. However, there still wasn't a definite answer why the Jury winners of the past two years won Eurovision.

The final piece of the puzzle was to check the average number of countries that voted the overall Top 3 in each constituency. And this was the part where everything became crystal clear...

Average number of countries that gave points in the split vote era (2016-2024)

Winner: Jury Vote: 31.8 / 39.1 - Public Vote: 38.8 / 39.4

2nd: Jury Vote: 31.9 / 39.1 - Public Vote: 38 / 39.4

3rd: Jury Vote: 27.2 / 39.1 - Public Vote: 33.1 / 39.4

All Eurovision Winners in the split vote era, were awarded Public vote points from almost every other country (310/315). Even the second place has a close to perfection record (305/315). 

5 Eurovision Winners got voted by all other countries in Public vote (Portugal '17, Netherlands '19, Italy '21, Ukraine '22, Sweden '23), 2 Eurovision winners were not voted only by 1 other country (Ukraine '16, Switzerland '24) and only Israel '18 was not voted by 3 countries.

There are also 5 entries that finished 2nd and were awarded points by all other countries in Public Vote! (Bulgaria '17, Cyprus '18, France '21, Finland '23, Croatia '24).

The number of Eurovision Winners that managed to receive points from all other countries in the Jury vote?...

1...Sweden in '23...

This is the crucial point! It is common to have a televote magnet that sometimes or most times will struggle with the Jurors. On the other hand, if a country has received Jury points from the vast majority of the countries, it will do the same with the Televote, regardless if they win or not. Sweden '23 failed to receive a single set of 12 points in Televote but finished 2nd there receiving points from all countries. Switzerland '24 received just a set of 12 points, it finished 5th with the Public vote but has received points from all but one country! The more sets of points a country receives, the bigger the chance they have to win Eurovision. 

There are only 3 occasions where the Eurovision Winner received less sets of points than the runner-up:

2016: Ukraine - Jury Vote: 24/41 - Public Vote: 40/41 - Total: 64/82

         Australia - Jury Vote: 38/41 - Public Vote: 37/41 - Total: 75/82


2021: Italy - Jury Vote: 28/38 - Public Vote: 38/38 - Total: 66/76

       France - Jury Vote: 33/38 - Public Vote: 38/38 - Total: 71/76


2022: Ukraine - Jury Vote: 26/39 - Public Vote: 39/39 - Total: 65/78

                   UK - Jury Vote: 35/39 - Public Vote: 34/39 - Total: 69/78


These three happen to be the only cases that a country won while receiving points from less than 30 countries in Jury vote as well. And the two of them happen to be Ukraine, land sliding the Public vote in 2022 that made their Jury performance irrelevant and receiving 11 sets of 12s from the 24 countries that gave them Jury points in 2016. This is the reason why I do consider both Ukrainian wins to be political. 

That leaves Eurovision 2021 as the only time that the Winner received points from less countries not only than the runner up but also than the third place. The fact that all three countries were neighbors (Italy, France, Switzerland) gave the upper hand in Italy that managed to win the Public vote.

This is the main reason behind Sweden's and Switzerland's win in the last two editions. Finland in '23 was voted by 22/36 countries in the Jury vote and Croatia 30/36 respectively. Both countries were far behind and the opponents' near perfect scores guaranteed that they would receive votes from all countries in Televote as well. 

There is a very small number of countries that received points from 33 countries or more in the Jury vote and failed to score points with more than 30 countries in the Public vote at the same time:

Austria '18 - Jury vote: 34/42 - Public vote: 18/42

Sweden '18 - Jury vote: 35/42 - Public vote: 7/42

In conclusion there is only one way to win Eurovision and that is to receive Public vote points from all or all but one countries and have a consensus between the two constituencies. 

The Juries might disagree with the Public, but if all Juries or almost all of them agree between them for an entry, then the Public will agree as well.

If an entry receives points from 34-35 countries in the Jury vote, expect the same to happen in the Public vote as well. And since this is the order with which the points are presented in the Final, I will have these numbers in mind when trying to calculate my winner.

Please do share your thoughts and keep the conversation going.