Showing posts with label eurovision estonia. Show all posts
Showing posts with label eurovision estonia. Show all posts

Tuesday, 25 February 2025

Eurovision 2025 Early Thoughts - Estonia

 

Espresso Macchiato - Tommy Cash

I have a hunch that 'Espresso Macchiato' will hunt Eurovision 2025 down for a long time. 

The hyping up of the entry has already started and the Tommy Cash PR machine has started applying the 'Europapa'/Joost textbook from last year, already charting in some countries and being the early talk of the town.


'Espresso Macchiato' is an entry that could go different directions in the next few months, but if there is one thing I can say with certainty is that Estonia will not win Eurovision!

I have not decided yet if the song is a joke/parody entry, a meta-joke or a statement/political comment about society. The videoclip and the staging in Eesti Laul made things more complicated. 

The song per se is a mockery of the Italian stereotypes sang in 'Italian', but it is just a vessel for Tommy Cash to sell his persona and is designed to dominate the Public vote.

He received Kaarija's endorsement, like Joost did last year, and the latter one endorsed him as well, trying to establish some short of 'The Bad Boys Club' in Eurovision that will have a representative each year trying to win the Public vote and turn the contest into a PR show.

The charting and streaming numbers so far suggest that 'Espresso Macchiato' has the same trajectory that 'Europapa' had last year. I have to admit that I was sceptical about 'Europapa' as well last year when it launched and remained sceptical throughout the season regarding its winning chances.

The same argument applies to 'Espresso Macchiato' and it is the Juries. No matter how well he will perform in Public vote, I still have my doubts about this, he will be tanked/penalised by Juries so hard that it will be out of contention early in the voting process. 

Netherlands last year received 58 Jury points before it was disqualified from the Final. And that was with a song that had a nice emotional instrumental part in the last part and was talking about unity and the pan-European values.

There is an argument floating around that if Tommy Cash is considered a favourite, the Juries somehow will give him a free pass and will boost its score, like they short of did with Finland in '23, but obviously that was not the case with Netherlands last year that was also considered a favourite. 

My projected Jury score for Estonia right now stands in the 25-50 points threshold and I don't think that it has enough/anything to push it into the three digit territory and this is where any discussion about the win ends once and for all.

Estonia's realistic goal, in my opinion, is a lower Top-10 result fuelled by a good Top-5/10 Public vote result. I do think that Tommy Cash's entry is divisive enough and the competition for the public vote will be harder for him, having other entries from the same region fighting for the top marks. My current projection is in the 75-175 point area, willing to re-access his numbers, but I do believe that 200-225 Public vote points is the maximum that he would get.

What do I see in my crystal ball?

Tommy Cash trying to do any publicity stunt to grab public's attention and win the PV, but that not ending well. Bottom-5 with Juries and a decent Top-7/8 with the Public vote and a 9th place overall

Televoting Potential: 9/10

Jury Potential: 1/10

Staging Potential: 7/10

Momentum: 8/10

My Opinion: 2/10

Total: 27/50


What the fair winning chance % would be?

0.1% - 1%

Best case scenario:

Top-5

Worst case scenario:

16th-20th

Pre-Contest estimated points:

SF: 100-125

F: J: 25-50 - PV: 75-175 - Tot: 100-225

Share your thoughts in the comments area. Do you think Estonia can overcome the jury vote deficit?

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Friday, 16 February 2024

The one for the Baltics and the Northern Europe

 

By Saturday night we will know more than half of the songs that will be competing in Malmö next May.

Germany tonight, Moldova, Estonia, Denmark and Lithuania have their national finals in the busiest weekend of the season so far, with Sweden and Iceland also having their Semi- Finals at the same time.

Let's start with Germany where nine songs will compete for the win.



The odds suggest an one horse race with Ryk being the heavy favorite to represent Germany currently at 1.35-1.38. I do find these odds very very short and with no value whatsoever, especially because we are talking about Germany with 50% of the votes coming from the German public. 

The public has been unpredictable in the past and the nature of the majority of the entries being slow tempo might affect Ryk's favoritism. 

Betting wise there are three strategies that someone could use in this particular National Final:

1. No bet: If you think that Ryk is the clear favorite and one way or the other will win the final. 

2. Lay Ryk: If you have access to Betfair exchange this is the best way to go. With the current price at 1.38, laying means you get approximately 4 times your money if any other artist wins.

3. Invest 5 units divided as following: Bodine Monet x 2 (4.2), Max Mutzke (8), Marie Reim (40), Isaak (27) x 1, investing a small amount of money that could bring a large profit if an outsider wins.

I will personally use a combination of the latter two but will not invest a big amount of money either way.

The first Final on Saturday is Etapa Nationala in Moldova. I have nothing to say here as this is a country that I have not watched/followed at all this year. Natalia Barbu is the favorite at 1.25 and I do not have any comment or recommendation for this one.

Eesti Laul in Estonia is the one that will grab my attention early in the evening. 5miinust & Puuluup were trading at 2.50 6 weeks ago and were the second favorite to win Eesti Laul and their price is currently at 1.10-1.20.

Any thoughts for opposing the favorite are just wishful thinking in my opinion. The format to decide the winner is a 50/50 split between a jury and the public voting, leading to a super final between the three best acts with a 100% televote which is the reason why I think that 5miinust & Puuluup is a done deal.

For those that are eager to bet on something, some bookies offer a Top-3 result, Daniel Levi at 1.50 feels like a safe option. I have also placed a fun bet on Ewert and the Two Dragons at 20.


Dansk Melodi Grand Prix will be the third Final of the day and things there are a bit more open. It feels like a two horse race between Saba at 1.95, opening the Final, and Aura Dione at 3.50, closing the Final.

This is not a particularly strong final and these are the two entries that slightly stand out. The voting system is 50/50 juries and public vote, with half of the jurors coming from the last five Eurovision Winner countries. Then there will be a super final for the Top-3 with the same format to decide the winner. 

Between the two, my personal preference is Aura Dione at 3.50 and this is my bet on the Winner market.

Stoiximan in Greece and Cyprus offers a few interesting  side markets. Aura Dione and Saba to finish in Top-3 at 1.40 feels like money in the bank.

The other option that has some value in my opinion is Saba and RoseeLu to finish in Top-3 at 3.00.

For those thinking that Denmark will once again peak the boy band, Ublu to Finish in Top-3 at 3.40 is an option.

This is a very average national final and the differences between the second and the fifth song will not be huge. Televote awards only one vote per artist and that could minimize the margins as well. 

This is the reason why I have chosen to risk a bit.

Again my investment is not huge, trying to have a nice profit but not risking any of my profits during the national finals season.


The last final for the weekend is Eurovizija.LT in Lithuania. Another two horse race here with Silvester Belt currently leading the odds at 1.35-1.45 followed by Roop at 2.10-2.35.

'Luktelk' is by far the best Lithuanian entry of the last decade and should be the winner, competing against the weakest of the three songs that Roop have submitted for Eurovision. 

Silvester Belt even at 1.45 still has some value.


Good luck to your favorites this weekend and don't forget to tune in this Tuesday to the third episode of our Eurovision podcast 'Talk About Things' co-hosted with the Eurovision experts @mat_rickard and  @Panos_Zannettos at

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Wednesday, 1 March 2023

Eurovision 2023: The First Impression: Estonia

 

First Thoughts:

Eesti Laul has not produced a great winner in the last few years and 'Bridges' follows the same tune.

Had it been in Semi-Final 1, qualification would have been an uphill. However, Semi-Final 2 is turning to one of the weakest Semi-Finals in history and Estonia, one way or the other, will find its way to the Final.

What happens there is a different story. This is a jury friendly song but not one of those that will force the jurors to vote for it. Some low scores and a few neighbour votes might be enough to save it from finishing Bottom-5.

Televoting wise, this is not a bad entry, but would you vote for your 8th-10th favorite song? 

'Bridges' might have some luck for a middle table result if they finish 3rd-4th in the Semi-Final which is not that farfetched with the current line-up, and they get a decent draw in the Final.

For me this is an entry that shouts 18th-22nd.


It reminds me of...

Estonia '12, Greece '15, Poland '17, Georgia '17


Televoting Potential: 6.5/10

Jury Potential: 7/10

Staging Potential: 7/10

Momentum: 6.5/10

My Opinion: 6.5/10

Total: 33.5/50


What the fair winning chance % would be?

0.01% - 0.25%

Best case scenario:

13th-16th

Worst case scenario:

Non qualification

To Qualify or Not to Qualify? That's the question...

65% to qualify


What do I see in my crystal ball?

A strong finish near Top-3 in the Semi-Final and then used as a filler in the Final, finishing 18th-22nd.